Sue Wheatcroft interview potentially tricky words/phrases for English learners

Discharge someone-if you discharge someone from hospital you allow them to leave

Diagnosis-to identify someone as having an illness or a condition

Got at-feel that someone is potentially against you

Offended- in this context to have done something for which one can be put in prison

Arson- the criminal act of setting fire to property

Probation-release of prison under condition of good behaviour

Spell-in this context it means a period of time spent somewhere

Segregation- to be segregated is to be kept apart from

Uphill-if something is an uphill struggle it is difficult

Front line staff-someone who executes a task rather than plans it

Paying lip service to-saying you support something but not doing anything to actually help out

lead on-the person is normally ‘led on’ and does something or expects something as someone else has lied to them or makes promises they can’t keep

Sue Wheatcroft-campaigner for change an interview-Level B2

How do you feel that BPD contributed to you ending up in prison?

I truly believe that if I had received adequate treatment from the Community Mental Health Services (CMHS) I would not have gone to prison. It wasn’t the symptoms of BPD, as much how they were managed.

At the age of 14, I had been given a diagnosis of ‘inadequate personality’. This was in 1974, when such terms were the norm. I spent some time in a psychiatric ward and a special school but was then completely discharged as soon as I reached 16. I wasn’t told about my diagnosis and so spent years thinking I was just weird and that I should hide how I felt. I had quite severe attachment issues but was too embarrassed to discuss it with anyone. On one of my rare visits to the GP I became quite tearful and so was treated for depression which, I now know, I didn’t have. I struggled alone most of my life; alternating between over-sensitivity and anger; impulsive behaviour; negative thinking; and feelings of emptiness, until I finally asked for help at the age of 53. That led to my current diagnosis of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), but also to the stigmatisation associated with it, that prevented me from getting any help.

I offended, partly, because I was desperate, frustrated and angry at the way I had been treated (or not) by the CMHS. Every time I think back to how I was spoken to, by the very people who are employed in a position to help people like me, I go through every emotion: sadness, frustration, anger, hate, suicide… My journey to prison is rather complex and involves domestic abuse, knife crime, arson, and the consequences of severe attachment. It also includes the part played by probation, the police, and a psychiatrist who I thought was treating me but turned out to be working with the police and was a witness against me. It is, perhaps, best saved for another time.

Why are there so many women with BPD in prison?

For those who have to rely on their local CMHS, there is still a huge amount of stigma and misunderstanding surrounding BPD among the front-line staff. We phone the crisis team in tears, begging for help. Invariably, we are asked if we intend to end our lives. If we say yes, they will phone the police. If the answer is no, then we don’t need their help and if anything changes, we are told that all they can do is to phone the police or advise us to phone 111. If we phone again, we are attention-seeking, and ignored.

Many people struggle to manage their emotions; to those with BPD this can be a massive understatement. The desperation felt can be unbearable, to the extent that around 70% attempt to take their own life at least once, and 10% succeed. The urge to do this can be immediate and sometimes, the feeling will not go away until they have done something extreme: screaming, self-harming, offending…

The lack of help from the CMHS is detrimental to the health of someone with BPD. However, what is likely to tip them over the edge into extreme behaviour, is the negative attitude towards them. Telling someone to bake a cake when all that person wants to do is to go to sleep and never wake up again, is both insensitive and potentially dangerous. We all understand that resources are short, but there is no excuse for a lack of compassion.

People with BPD do not always see the world as others do. In particular, they struggle to understand if they are liked or being ‘got at’ by others, including family and friends and others they are close to. This sometimes leads to a misunderstanding that is intensified by the person with BPD due to their lack of social skills, or ‘tools’. Dialectical Behavioural Therapy (DBT) was developed specially to treat those with BPD, and other therapies have been successful in lessening the intensity of symptoms. However, resources are short and, where the treatment is available, it is not unusual to be told that ‘you are not ill enough, so don’t qualify’, or, ‘you are too ill to treat’.

Without treatment and understanding people with BPD feel lost, alone, helpless, neglected and insecure, afraid of being let down or abandoned. Unable to express their true feelings, they can come across as angry and aggressive. They may commit petty crimes but, without a true understanding of their condition, and within a culture of risk aversion, magistrates and judges often give them harsh sentences.

What was your experience of being in prison with BPD?

Most of my time in prison was spent either in Segregation or Healthcare. There was no attempt to try and understood my behaviour and I was seen largely as an attention-seeker. My spells in healthcare were usually after an episode of self-harming or attempting suicide. My stays in segregation, five months in total, were generally as a consequence of my in-cell graffiti. My way of coping was to draw and write on the cell walls. I desperately needed to get my feelings out, and no-one was willing to listen. Segregation wasn’t the answer and 23 hours a day alone in a cell can only exacerbate a mental health condition.

My one shining light in prison was the psychologist. I say ‘the’ psychologist because she was the only one there, although she was helped by three mental health nurses. She was kind to me, which meant more than you can imagine. She wanted to help me but, of course, she didn’t have the time. What she tried to do was to keep me out of segregation and, when this failed, she tried to make sure I was treated adequately. Unfortunately, this failed too, but I was grateful for her occasional appearance. It was more than I ever got in the community. My time in segregation is yet another story!

How much help, if any, is available to women in prison and does it change depending on the location?

Those who have two or more years left to serve on their sentence might be able to be transferred to one of the personality disorder units within the women’s estate. These are part of the Offender Personality Disorder (OPD) Pathway, which is co-commissioned and managed by NHS England and HMPPS, in response to the knowledge that approximately two-thirds of prisoners meet the criteria for at least one type of personality disorder. 

Outside of these units, there is a serious lack of training for prison and health staff in the symptoms of BPD. Those with less than two years left to serve are housed on regular wings and are too often, seen merely as troublemakers.  It is very often the case that an individual with BPD spends a longer time than normal locked in their cell. A common symptom of BPD is a fear of sudden endings, and relocating an individual into another cell, or even prison, without prior knowledge can be immensely traumatic and often results in a period of crisis.

For those lucky enough to be referred to the prison mental health in-reach services (known as In-Reach), there is inevitably a long waiting list and even then, treatments for personality disorders, outside the specific units, are difficult to source. With a lack of resources, the staff face an uphill struggle to cope with the number of prisoners with a personality disorder.  In addition, making a diagnosis whilst in custody can be unreliable because the individual is away from their usual environment. People very often act differently in prison; they may be putting on a brave face and suffering in silence, or they may become anti-social in order to survive.

How does the cost of keeping a woman with BPD in prison, compare to the cost of treating a woman in the community? 

There are no definitive statistics on the prevalence of BPD in the UK, although it is thought to affect between 1 and 2% of the population. The ratio of women to men having the condition is said to be 3:1, and it is, by far, the most common personality disorder among women, both in prison and the community. It is thought that around 20% of women in UK prisons have BPD which, at the time of writing, would be an estimated 650 women. Keeping someone in prison costs around £118 per day. By these figures, the daily cost to the taxpayer, to keep women with BPD in prison, is £76,700.

It is always going to be cheaper and more effective to put money into the community rather than in prison, but there needs to be a concerted effort to ensure that money reaches those with a personality disorder. Too often, it is aimed at those with ‘emotional difficulties’, which includes a range of mental health conditions. Consequently, those with BPD get left behind. Then, of course, there is the human cost. The negative impact on families and on children in particular, of putting women in prison, cannot be overstated.

What can be done to fight the stigma surrounding BPD? How much do BPD treatment services differ across the UK? 

The worst thing someone can hear when they need help is that nothing can be done.  Historically, people with personality disorders have been denied help from statutory services because their condition has been regarded as untreatable.  This belief is slowly changing because there are many people who are trying to fight the stigma. For me, it’s a matter of awareness and training, co-produced with those with lived experience. Frontline workers, delivery services and management should all be aware of why and how a personality disorder is developed, so that the appropriate therapies and services can be carried out with empathy, understanding and kindness.

As with most health services, there is a postcode lottery when it comes to finding effective and high-quality support. Some counties have dedicated personality disorder services, whilst other counties say they do but after delving into what they offer it is found that they are paying lip service. The remaining counties have neither the plans nor the desire to set up a dedicated service.

Do you have any other stories about women in prison with BPD and what they experienced? 

A lady who became one of my best friends in prison, and who I am still in contact with, received a life sentence for the murder of her boyfriend. From what she told me, there had been many signs of difficulties in regulating her emotions, long before that incident. But she didn’t get help, and two lives were ruined. And of course, there was the knock-on effect to their families and friends. She was eventually transferred to a secure hospital for treatment but is now back in prison.

Another woman had similar experiences to me in that she would often end up in segregation. She had severe attachment issues and one day she held a knife to the throat of a woman she believed had been ‘leading her on’. The matter was resolved after a few hours, but a few weeks later, she took her own life.

How have you attempted over the last few years to change the system? 

When I left prison, I set up the Derbyshire BPD Support Groups. The thought of others going through what I had just because they were alone with their condition, made me feel ill and I had to do something. That was four and a half years ago, and we now have members from all over the world taking part in our WhatsApp group and zoom calls. The best thing about it is that people know they are not alone; they are able to connect with others for support and advice.

As a person with lived experience of prison and mental health, I have written several articles and blogs trying to raise awareness of the consequences of not giving people adequate treatment, and the wider impact and expense, of sending women to prison for non-violent crimes. Within the Criminal Justice System, the Voluntary Sector and the NHS, I have been part of various focus groups, and I have presented at forums and conferences.

In my work with the Revolving Doors Agency (RDA), I have co-produced a Best Practice Guide for prisons, and a Pre-Release Skills Project for the women’s estate. I was also on the East Midland’s Prison Partnership Board. I have contributed to various national documents, including Lord Bradley’s Report, Ten Years On, as well as RETHINK’s Thinking Differently, a guide to NHS England’s new Mental Health Framework. These are just a few things I have done as a campaigner and activist, and I have much more to do.

Anything else you’d like to add.

Not all people with BPD will reach crisis point. Some learn to manage their emotions when relatively calm so that they do not reach that stage. It’s important to remember that most people in danger of reaching crisis point are not thinking straight and may not be able to get help for themselves. Yet, people need to be listened to and taken seriously. For those who can afford a private therapist, this can work quite well. It certainly saved me.

I would also like to add that, when talking about coping alone with my condition, I am referring to the lack of knowledge and treatment. I was lucky enough to spend over 36 years with my soulmate, Vicky, who sadly passed away just before Christmas. We struggled together but she supported me in ways that only a loved one can.

Many thanks to Sue Wheatcroft for the interview. If you’d like more information about her/are looking for resources to help you can visit:

Welcome to my website

https://derbyshireborderlinepersonalitydisordersupportgroup.com/

The recruitment process/work (level B2)

I am hoping this is my last reflective blog for a while. I will hopefully be going back to interview people in a month or so. I am looking to temp, so I can have the time to work on blogging and videoing and develop skills that will allow me to pursue a career path with a content development focus.


I have a few more thoughts concerning the recruitment process and the nature of work. The last permanent job I applied for before looking into making temping work viable was a job that had a straightforward application form. As I am sure you’re aware, with most jobs, you have a form that asks you for the exact date that you worked to and from for a specific organisation. There are two problems with asking for to and from dates:


1) does anyone remember the exact day that they started working somewhere!


2) it makes it harder for certain people to get back into the work place;

for example women who’ve taken time out to have children, people with criminal records, anyone with a sketchy work history because they have some kind of neurodiverse condition and/or people with physical health issues.


The form I had to fill out didn’t ask for any job history details; the only questions the potential employer asked were about demonstrating certain skill sets. This approach is excellent as there is then no prejudice on the employer’s part about work gaps or the type of work you’ve done. I’ve heard that some people look down on candidates with a lot of volunteer experience. They wonder why the candidate has never found anyone who wants to pay for their time and effort; volunteering thus devalues the job applicant. However, I’ve also heard that employers love people who volunteer, so I am in two minds about this.

However, with an application form that just relied on the candidate to answer questions relating to the job, the candidate is judged less on their work history and more on what they potentially bring to the role, which is good.

Blog frequency (B1/B2 level)

I will continue this blog but will only blog once a month as I am putting my energy into searching for part-time work. I have a role that ends in August, so I need to concentrate on the job search. A few thoughts re the job search process, I’ve had a few more interviews since the interview/trial day. One of the things that all the recent interviewers have done was to send the questions in advance, which makes sense as a strategy: why bother saving them to the interview the process is nerve-wracking enough, and if you have the appropriate experience, then you have the relevant experience it doesn’t matter when you know what the questions are.

For one of the days, I even got sent the task in advance. Having some knowledge of what you are going to encounter makes a stressful situation less stressful. Here’s hoping more companies start thinking like this.

An interview about the COVID with someone who works in a hospital (Level B1)

Interview with someone who works in a hospital about COVID

So, you’re in a hospital that treats COVID patients. Have you seen a lot of deaths from COVID? 

I haven’t seen it myself, but my job is to support the doctors and nurses who’ve seen it.

Support staff like me, I’m nonclinical, I’m in IT support, we don’t see it.

I don’t have any patient contact, but I go on to the wards where there are patients, and you see that this area is quarantined; you mustn’t go in there. The IT equipment has to be functioning; if any of its broken, it has to come out. If we go into those areas where there are COVID patients, we have to mask up, put on gowns and protective equipment. Several wards have had to be closed so that they can retrain the nurses. They had to retrain them to be intensive care nurses and move them into a ward that has been converted into an intensive care unit.

And then when conspiracy theorists come into the hospital and photograph these empty walls and say, look, there’s no overcrowding, there’s empty wards. It’s very annoying, and you can’t have security guards everywhere in the hospital stopping that happen. A hospital is a public building. People can get in if they’re determined. You know, a letter claiming you’ve got an appointment will get you in through the door. And it’s very disheartening to see.

These people who don’t know what they’re talking about, presenting what they think is evidence and other people who don’t know what they’re talking about, believing it, and eventually, it spreading into the mainstream, so ordinary people see this and get bombarded with it. They start to believe it, which is something that makes me very angry.

So, would you try to engage with conspiracy theorists, and do you have people who are close to you, like friends who are conspiracy theorists? 

There was someone who I know; I mean, this is a very highly qualified chef and a very talented musician, he’s not an ignoramus. If he wants to believe. He’s an intelligent man; I can understand this sort of thing occurs when you’ve not had the benefit of an education, but not him.

If you’ve been taught not to think, a lot of state education is being taught not to think. Don’t challenge anything. Just do what you’re told. But this man is clearly in his 50s, and he’s talented. A talented chef and musician he’s knowledgeable and can discuss lots of subjects. And then when he comes out with “It’s a hoax, it doesn’t exist”.

Well, I can, I can see the death it’s causing, and the security guards in the hospital say, stop, stop, go back COVID patient coming through. They’ve got to get a patient from the operating theatre to X-ray, which means walking down a corridor where members of the public will go. And that’s three security guards, one in front, one behind them, all going with the bed to make sure nobody gets within at least two meters or more of this COVID patient. You see that the increased work on the mortuary. And then an intelligent man doesn’t want to look at the evidence. No, I’m not going to waste my time engaging with someone who doesn’t want to see the evidence.

So, you’d never try to persuade anyone who has ideas about COVID which don’t conform to mainstream science? 

I will debate with people if I think there’s a point if I think I might achieve something meaningful.

Suppose you think that they are. They’re are not necessarily conspiracy theories, but they have their doubts about COVID or are vaccine heistant that sort of thing.

Yeah, people who have asked, you know, do you think this vaccine is a good idea? Do you believe it exists? But people who tell me it doesn’t, I am not going to bother.

It’s like people who tell me the moon is made of cream cheese, I’m not going to engage with someone who tells me that.

I debate both with the conspiracy theorists and the people who are just unsure. I think conspiracy theorists can change; my sister sent me this thing on the BBC, it was about this woman, who used to be an anti-vaxer, but she stopped being an anti-vaxer prior to the pandemic. 

And she has an idea like, you know, she’s saying, she can understand to some extent where they’re coming from, and she now tries to stop people, or she tries to debate with these people. People like this make me think its worth debating with conspiracy theorists. 

Many people I’ve talked to believe COVID exists, but they don’t think it’s that dangerous. It might not kill you, but you could give it to someone else, and it might kill them. I believe this complacency around COVID is dangerous, and going in and out of lockdown also causes a lot of disruption. 

Yeah, and I think that the impact on children when the government insisted on opening the schools earlier than all the expert advice said that they should be, and the children scared of having to go to school knowing that they could pick up the virus from another child. Some of them know that they can contract it from people with no symptoms and they might be scared that they would take it home and kill their parents. 

And children are very traumatised by having to go back to school when COVID hasn’t been beaten.

And the evidence, the advice from the World Health Organisation was quite clear that if you don’t take these steps, you will finish up with thousands of deaths. And that’s what happened. The government had the audacity at the start of this to say, you know, we’ll get herd immunity, there might be, you know, there will be a lot of old people will die, but… – as if that’s acceptable,

Did you see Boris Johnson lying about bodies piling up?

Yeah. I’ve seen the reports. And now journalists coming out and saying, yeah, I heard him say that, and I heard him say that, well, why didn’t you report it at the time? Why weren’t they focusing on reporting that? All over Europe, there’s been reports that yesterday several MPs of all parties have asked the speaker of the House to lead a debate to force Boris Johnson to stop lying to the House.

And this has been reported all over European media, but not on the BBC. So why are these people not holding the government to account?

It is interesting because it looks like the run-up to the election. They seemed to smear the Labour Party, and they didn’t do much to Boris.

Well, there’s many highly paid people at the BBC, and Jeremy Corbyn was going to make them pay a lot more tax. He was going to tax the rich people to pay for the things that the country needs; these wealthy people have been telling us that the country’s poor. They say that the country’s broke as they’re hoarding all their millions in offshore tax-havens.

So we have to take money away from poor people and make them more homeless because of the greed of the top 1%.

I think we’ve moved away from COVID.

I think it’s all related. It’s the reason why we’ve had so many thousands of deaths.

Because of corruption and cronyism

There’s an ideological position on the right-wing of politics. For the government not to do anything, everything has to be done by private finance, and in contrast, the New Zealand government took control and bought the personal protective equipment and the masks that were needed; our government said we’ve got to get a private company to do it, and the private company made a mess of it.

And many of the private companies have been set up on the fly by friends of the government or even members of the Conservative Party have set up companies and said, oh, yeah, I’ll source it. I’ll make a fortune sourcing masks from China and importing them. Instead of going to established companies, who’ve already got the connections, and billions have been wasted. By giving contracts to these people who have got no idea, who’ve got no experience doing this, and the consequence has been thousands of people have died.

Because they wouldn’t say, let the government tax Amazon, we will tax  Vodaphone, and we will spend the money on the masks to protect the people who voted for us. And that’s against their ideology. And I thought that Corbyn’s ideology, that’s what you would do. He would make Amazon pay tax on the billions of pounds earned in this country. And he would spend that money fixing the country.

An interview about Careers and teaching-phrases/specialised vocab

Academically gifted-in this case it means you excel in terms of academic performance

Academically inclined-its part of your personality to want to study academic subjects, maybe you are curious about a certain subject are or you just like to have a certain type of intellectual challenge

Core subjects-those subjects which are compulsory throughout each key stage of the curriculum

Peer pressure-pressure from ones peer group, a peer group is people who are the same/similar in one aspect such as age, background or social status

Qualifications-an exam, which is recognised as showing a certain level of ability or conferring on someone professional status

Aptitude-a natural ability in a certain area

Tone deaf-in this case, it means problems recognising different musical pitches

Innate ability-something someone is born with, aka natural ability and natural aptitude

Tell on you-in this case; it will have a negative impact

Mortgage-loan towards buying a house

Crop up-to appear

Switch off-to not pay attention to your work and to take a break

Apprenticeship-a programme which trains someone for a particular trade

Pastoral-emotional and social support

Special needs-disabilities that may be mental, psychological or emotional

Phrases ‘Interview about how the concept of race developed’ with Subhadra Das

Interview about how the concept of race developed – YouTube

The idea that you can read a person…

Read a person- the idea that you can tell something about someone without having any meaningful interaction with them. You can tell something about them by looking at them.

He talks about them crying like a child, and his interpretation of that is that this is someone lesser

Lesser- that he somehow is deviants from the norm behavior wise.

..but it feeds into a lot of other complexities in our society now this idea of toxic masculinity….

Feeds into-in this case, it means has an impact on our society.

Toxic masculinity– when a man follows traditional masculine norms in terms of behaviour or attitudes to work. Behaviour examples could be suppressing emotions; suppressing emotions can be toxic as it can negatively impact mental health. An attitude to work that men have might be the pursuit of social status. The pursuit of social status can be toxic as it potentially means fewer opportunities for women in the workplace, and it can be toxic to men as a man feels under pressure to provide. Thus, toxic masculinity can be toxic to men themselves and society.

…the thing I didn’t know before looking into this subject..

Looking into-before, I examined this subject.

..its a means of justifying that ill-treatment..

 Ill treatment-in this context, exploitation, and cruel treatment of the slaves.

…there’s kind of an element of like a self-fulfilling prophecy it’s like well these people are like children or they’re not intelligent enough to govern themselves.

Self-fulfilling prophecy-when the person predicts a behavior in someone else and their behaviour aligns with the prediction. In this case, because the slaves were treated disrespectfully, they behave in a way that was not optimal, and thus they were seen as the kind of people who were unable to look after themselves and operate in society, unlike their owners, who were treated civilly and thus behaved in a way that was seen as superior. Even though owning slaves was in no way civil! In fact, pretty normal behaviour such as attempts to escape slavery was seen as evidence of pathology!

Phrases interview COVID and the vaccine

I don’t have much experience of explaining science to the lay public

Lay public-in this case individuals who don’t have an academic background in the medical sciences.

…. this last year has been a massive learning curve for me!

Learning curve-in this situation it relates to the need to learn a lot in a short period of time.

So, what you then do is that you unblind the study and you look to see who the people who’ve been infected are and the vast majority of them received the placebo, so actually of the people who received the vaccine, very few caught COVID.

Unblind the study-at the start the study was a blind study, when a study is blind the participants do not know whether they are receiving the actual treatment, in this case the vaccine or a placebo.

 It has moved phenomenally quickly; usually, vaccine development takes eight years plus to come to the market. 

Come to market-available for sale/distribution.

Every medication has side effects, so if you think of something like paracetamol, a type of plaster, or a COVID vaccine, a small minority will react. 

Side effects-in this case the vaccines’ purpose is to protect people against COVID but something that is not intended is that people might feel ill for a short while after being given the vaccine, for example they may have a slight fever, feel fatigued etc these are side effects of the vaccine.

mRNA technology is being used in cancer treatments, and they’ve published a study of mRNA technology used in an animal model of multiple sclerosis. So, it’s a really exciting technology. 

Animal model-experimental living systems where treatments can be tested.

There are also some indications that natural immunity potentially does wane, its quite hard to interpret.

Wane-in this case strength of the response decreases.

There’s a lot of research into things like this; so, this is an example of a conspiracy theory there’s been quite a lot of research into the psychology of conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theory-a theory that dismisses the standard interpretation of events and choses an explanation that points towards motives of personal/political gain.

Some people will come round; some people will not.

Come round-to change one’s opinion on something

People who are very anti-vaccine are very influential on social media; they sit at the center of social networks.

Social media-facebook, twitter, Instagram. Social networks-groups of people connecting via social media.

We need regular vox pops of people who’ve been vaccinated, starting with granny and working downwards.

Vox pops-voice of the people.

and inserting something as fact when it’s based on something that’s happened but delivered out of context.

Out of context-in this case only talking about certain facts so that it looks like their concerns are validated.

Phrases from Aspierations interview

We think there might be some latitude there to allow Aspierations to come into companies and do some really exciting work with them.

Latitude-in this case greater freedom of choice.

I think there is going to be a new halfway house, which actually could be quite attractive to Autistic folk, who can dip in and dip out of that as they choose.

To dip in and dip out of-to actively take part in something then move back to another state or situation. In this case employees wouldn’t go to a company office in the traditional sense but they would still have the opportunity to socialise and potential to network. Probably with more emphasis on home working.

Secondly, the amount of social security that has to be paid to them as well. 

Social security-in this case the money paid to individuals who are out of work.

It’s naturally assumed that they will be good on the computer side of things, but you and I know it’s much more subtle than that and that different skillsets within Autism are attracted to different industries.

Skillset-range of things that someone is good at, usually used in reference to what someone does within their job.

Also, how does the intern, interact with their colleagues, I think there is a difference between being an intern and being a paid employee. 

Colleagues-people you work with at the office.

They might have had a reason to do that but for an Autistic student that is discrimination quite frankly.

Discrimination-in this case a scenario which puts someone with a neurodiverse condition at a disadvantage with respect to their peers.

However, when you look at their CV, it generally says jobs in Mcdonald’s or stacking shelves in a supermarket.

Stacking shelves-putting goods onto the shelves.

If they rule that out, then we’ve got to say to them, ‘right we’ve got to renegotiate your thoughts about career path planning, and that’s going to be a very, very hard thing to do.

Rule that out-they’ve decided that a course of action is unsuitable for them.

We might be able to get involved in being an advocate for that particular person because it’s all part of reasonable adjustments, and that’s a legal requirement; there is some wriggle room for change.

Wriggle room for change-there is the capacity to negotiate changes.

We are looking to create what we consider to be an Autism-friendly mock job interview we might be able to replicate that for a company for a real job.

Mock job interview-mock job interview something that seems like the real thing, in this case it is used in preparation for the actual event. A mock exam is the same concept.

We can make it much more bespoke for the actual candidate.

Bespoke-its tailored towards a specific candidate’s needs.